The Biggest Crime Of The Coaching Industry Revealed
I hesitate to reveal this crime, but have decided to do this, since I am seeing too many of our clients who are coming into our programs today being a victim of this.
This is really one of the dirtiest secrets of the coaching industry!
In fact, it is such a high treason crime that I want to spell it out clearly to you!
I know the coaching industry probably better than just about anyone today. One of the reasons I can say this, outside of the hundreds of thousands of dollars I have invested in it personally, is because I have had hundreds of clients over the past couple of years who have shared their horror stories of bad coaching.
The biggest crime of the coaching industry today is that so-called big name gurus who outsource their coaching to boiler house companies. This is actually a lesser evil of the larger crime.
What’s a boiler house company?
They are telemarketing companies with the sole purpose of selling coaching to help business owners who have no way of selling and/or fulfilling leads into high end coaching programs.
Now I want to make sure I am clear: I am NOT knocking coaching. In fact, I will be the first one to tell you that you absolutely must be close to the source of momentum. In other words you must be working with a mentor. In fact, I can assure you if you are not, you simply will NOT make it in business.
However, you need to be careful in whom you choose.
As one of the biggest advocates of coaching today and with one of the fastest growing coaching companies globally, one of my responsibilities as an advocate is to help you make a wise decision in your choice as to the person/company you choose to coach you to help you grow your business as an entrepreneur.
As mentioned above, many of today’s biggest names in the coaching industry outsource their leads to a boiler house company who will apply hard pressure tactics to try and get you to invest in a high end coaching program of $5,000 to $50,000.
The person who then decides to spend money in one of these programs is then provided a coach who is paid close to minimum wage to read off a script!
How happy would you be knowing that you had some flunky reading off a script who has NO way of helping you?
I can’t think of a worst crime in the name of coaching.
How disgruntled does this make you after finding this out? Personally, it makes me want to take a shower—it feels that dirty and underhanded!
If you are seriously considering coaching and want to know exactly what to be careful of, please join me on a private training call with my Inner Circle and Stealth coaching clients on Friday.
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Many Of Today’s Biggest Coaching Companies Would NEVER Want You To Know This. Ask Them And See What They Say! (Shot From An Undisclosed Location.)
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February 5th, 2010 at 2:09 am
I have received one of these calls from two different Gurus lists.
These opt-ins say “We will not share your information with anyone!
What a lot of rubbish.
With this stuff going on people will stop trusting the resat of us.
I got a call from a high pressure salesman offering coaching for a year. I was recommended by …
When I explained that I was not prepared to pay $5,000 up front, without even talking to a coach first, he made out that I was at fault.
After several attempts to get my money, he eventually gave up, and told me I was not the type of person they were looking for anyway.
I have lost faith in both of the Gurus who send my details to this company, I assume to get a piece of the money.
Paul Dawson
February 5th, 2010 at 2:17 am
Glenn, I’m sorry to say I fell for one of these schemes. The original guys seemed to be genuine, but once I was handed over to the sub-contractor, it was clear my “coach” was totally over-worked, smooth talking but not really qualified, and he kept me on one phase of the process so long that the contract ran out before I was able to get an online business operational. At $8000, an expensive lesson! It was demoralizing as well as financially painful. Anything you can do to expose this practice is valuable.
February 5th, 2010 at 2:30 am
Hi there, too little too late. I got suckered into one of those mentoring programs. I trusted them because they said they worked for [confidential for now], a huge, popular, MLM mastermind guru. They lied to me about the program I was signing up for, gave me a contract that gave me 3 days to un-enroll, making it sound all legitimate, but didn’t let me meet my mentor until the 4th day. When she went over the program I tried to tell her that isn’t what I signed up for. She was sympathetic but was only a hired gun. Finally on the third session I realized that I was not going to get the training I thought I was, and was totally screwed, seemingly without recourse, went ahead with the training. I had an attorney write them a letter, but they ignored it. I am thinking about filing a complaint with the Attorney General of Utah.
I will be on the call tomorrow.
February 5th, 2010 at 5:29 am
Thanks, Glenn, for airing this. This is not only in Utah. I know of the same thing in Los Angeles. The caller told me he was a certain Internet Marketer I had bought an ebook from. He wanted to “personally coach just 14 people, including me, this year. Sounded great!! But just like Roxie’s story (above) another company invoiced me. However I had not yet signed and returned any agreement. (I got scammed into giving out CC details, so that the guy could “verify if I actually was in a position to pay”. I figured he already had my CC details anyway because of the previous purchase, so it seemed not too risky – even though it sounded wierd, and I told him so!)
Long story short, there is some fine print in the Visa merchants’ documentation which clearly states that a visa card transaction for which the card-holder is not physically present offers no protection to the merchant and can be reversed by request to the CC company by the purchaser.
I found some testimonies similar to Roxie’s about this particular company and forwarded that to my CC bank along with my request for a reversal and it was granted almost immediately!
I had to endure a few abusive phone-calls from the guy, who still insisted he was the person he claimed to be, but I got my money back in full!
So happened that I found a website with the real marketer talking on video. He has a totally different accent!
Still I have suspicions that the real marketer could have something to do with the coaching scam because the guy on the phone knew what product I bought months earlier.
My hunch is that the “coaching” people scout the marketers to offer them a commission for using their list. As it’s free money for them they agree.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Hi Paul:
Thanks for your comments. It is indeed sad and the reason that
everyone needs to do their due diligence. The problem with the IM
world is the fact that so much of it is controlled by slick
marketers who no ‘firm place of residence’ if you will. In fact,
on separate occasions I have been at parties where two big names
were totally inebriated and told me several years ago that I just
need to ‘sell the dream’ as most will never take action.
Here are a few things I do to ensure our company has high touch
and complete visibility:
1. Our Int’l Office number is always posted and in fact you can
call my company during normal business hours at 519.542.3043.
2. All of our clients have a project manager who works directly
from my home office.
3. I interview one of our clients each week to my other clients
and to my list so that current clients and potential clients can
see exactly what we do.
4. Every one of our clients is a case study. They have to be
successful in our program.
5. We always consult potential clients and every client has an
agreement with our company where they know the specific
deliverables we will help them with. All or our one-on-one
mentoring is 100% customized to our clients.
6. I leverage the thousands of testimonials that we have to
showcase how we work with different people in different industries
including those who have no entrepreneurial background.
7. We work with clients on a daily basis–including several calls
each day. No one can stop me from bragging about my team. They are
an A+ list of coaches who have all invested in my program–from
the former marketing director of AOL to some of today’s leading
SEO experts to most importantly coaches who understand that
business is about cash flow.
8. All clients have access to me. I am not a guru, but a ‘do-ru’.
On my Executive Mentoring Mastermind calls held twice a week I
share exactly what our company is doing. Most of these high end
programs, you NEVER have access to the ‘guru’.
And the list goes on and on
Thanks for your input, Paul!
Glenn
February 5th, 2010 at 3:21 pm
Roxie:
Look forward to having you on the private training call today at
Noon.
Everyone who has ever wanted to move forward in life has at one
time or another gone through these kinds of situations.
It’s important that you at some point learn from these situations
and move on.
I do want to commend you and you should commend yourself for
desiring to move forward.
This is another reason why so many people fail to move forward in
life. Use this scenario to compel you to move forward. This is the
best way of ‘getting even’!
Enjoy the journey Roxie.
P.S. The call details for Friday’s training are on the blog post.
February 5th, 2010 at 3:22 pm
Jay…thanks for confiding.
I too have spent lots of money inside of these programs.
Make sure that the next program you invest in you truly see it as
an investment.
Time to get on with your legacy! And congrats on being willing to
invest in yourself. So few people do!
Glenn
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:12 pm
I got “surplussed”, and a payout (why keep an expensive knowledgeable person, when you can get three attractive novices for the same price, and build your hierarchy?)
A well-known “guru” hit me the same month, boiler shop in Utah. Coincidence?
I got sent a bunch of junk I’d never use, and nobody ever kept in touch. $8000 out the window for the one…minute…milli…
That’s okay, because I learned a lot more from that single experience than I did from six plus years of college, and 30 years of business design.
Trust your heart.
May 14th, 2010 at 2:15 pm
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May 15th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Glenn
Great post! I have been there and been sold coaching programs like that few years ago before I knew any better. Well I am so glad you spoke about it. People need to be aware!
I am a coach myself and I do prefer to teach personally and never hired anyone especially telemarketers to do for me..
I think personal touch goes along way!
Tatyana
May 17th, 2010 at 7:16 pm
Hi Tatyana:
Thanks for your thoughts! I have created a cool way using my own clients to do help with consults so they can specifically tell prospective clients what we do. In fact, I have a number of killer ways to help with the consulting part that no one is using in the coaching industry.
And it definitely does NOT involve using a bunch of slimy telemarketers!
G.